Monday, May 09, 2005

Interesting things happen at night.

hhahaha, okay, going to Coledale roof is always a fun time, but even more fun when gay mafia people playing strip basketball are there at 2am :P

Okay okay, maybe they were gay mafia or playing strip basketball, but its fun to think they were and that they chased us. hahahhahaha

Also had an interesting talk with Ed and Fatima about...well, society I guess. I think I need to clarify my thoughts on this a bit though. I'm not sure exactly what I think anymore, so here's just a jumbled rambled bunch of ideas that might not necessarily make sense. Essentially I think that the overtness of the gay community places a larger barrier between them and the mainstream society which would lead them to be further discriminated against. I think if they made a less (less, not completely destroy it) overt display of this stereotype, but more a display of a gay that works with society, then people might accept them a little more than they do. All these negatives stereotypes are enhanced by these overt gestures leaving people more hateful, and afraid of these big stereotypes.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but another argument against this was that these displays have to be so overt, and these stereotypes have to be supported and to be taken as something to be proud of, to spite the mainstream society and show them not to screw with the gay community. To essentially, convert the negative publicity towards them into a message back saying, "We're empowered by this image to spite you.", type-o-thing.

Well, I personally disagree with this spite thing. It just goes against my morals and values really. I know I'm a raging idealist and optumist, but I still think that you should be the bigger person. Its like dealing with a bully that is bigger and stronger than you, you just leave them at their own devices, then they find someone else to pick on cause you're boring. I dont mean stand down completely, just something more civilized? I dont believe in fighting fire with fire, or an eye for an eye.

I do, however, agree this action that has been taken was a good starting point to get things known. If it were toned down now, then people could be less afraid and more accepting. They'll see that everyday people are gay and not worrie about it because they're see that there is nothing to be afraid of or awkward about.

I also think that it is a good thing to absorb this negative image and turn it into a positive empowering message for much of the gay community. BUT, and this is a big but, you shouldnt be doing it for spite. Spite will only breed more conflict that is unwanted. If you're the bigger person, somewhere along the line, someone will respect you for it and notice. I say this only talking from my personal experience though, which is limited living in Unionville. I acknowledge that I've lived a sheltered and lucky life, and I still believe that other people arent nearly as bad as everyone thinks. If I believe that, then I'd have to believe that this world has no hope to be better and happier, which I refuse to believe.

The best thing that came out of this debate is that my passion and zest for wanting to change society and help as many people as I can has kinda been rekindled. I do understand this world isnt the beautiful place I percieve it to be at times, but I refuse to become cynical.

I guess its just my problem with trying to see the best in things. The goodness inside type of thing...it makes me a little more ignorant to the bad things, I acknowledge it...but I dont know if I want to change it or not...

I hope I understand the other argument well enough...my listening skills were on the fritz as my ears arent popping cause I'm a little sick, and I was a little on the tired side. Really sorrie also if I mad you guys mad with my strange view on things. I really just want everyone to get along, as impossible as that is. By the way, feel free to rip up my argument. I'm really interested into hearing what other people think about this subject. Its quite heated.

Idealism and a sheltered life? Perhaps not the best combination :P

Anyways, maybe I'll think more about this later and post, but thats all for now! All in all, the night was really fun. I was sufficiently entertained by the strange people chasing us and the strange man at the hotel...hahahhaha...we need to go hotel bathroom hoppin' ;)

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